A Better World – Kalachakra Prophecy and the Coming Golden Age

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Rita Hraiz: So, beautiful family, thank you for coming to be here with us. 

 

It feels very auspicious to be here with Khentrul Rinpoche. It’s auspicious for me because this is a path that I feel very connected to, from so many lifetimes to prepare for this moment. I really see it like that. And just even when I met you, it was almost downstairs here five years ago and I can honestly say Rinpoche, that receiving the Kalachakra understanding of a new time, coming into a golden age, and everything that you have been helping to transmit, teach and steer us towards, coming from Shambhala, has definitely changed my life. 

 

So I really am so grateful for that and of course, because of that, I want to try and do my very best to expand that so that so many more people, in this time of great uncertainty and so much turbulence, so much fear. I mean just this week, we’ve had a tsunami in Libya, you know earthquakes and many people would say “oh my God”. My mom actually said to me yesterday, “I think this is the end of the world”. You know and it is the ending of an old paradigm and the coming of something so new. And so tonight, it feels like a very precious opportunity to discuss our understandings of how we can prepare to fulfill the Golden Age, which by many prophecies, not just the Kalachakra, begin in 2030. And what we’re going through in this moment, which is a massive, clearly a massive purification, all humanity. It’s not comfortable or easy and I would love to talk about that.

 

So yeah, tonight Rinpoche, you know I come from…I feel like I’m walking a path for thirty years of being a student of something called ageless wisdom, and one of the strongest supports to my path of study has been the understanding of the Kalachakra. How it’s truly supporting humanity at this time, and I love the opportunity to have a discussion about that. 

 

And even maybe to begin with to ask how did you come across this? And how has it changed your life and your motivation, to share this wisdom. If that’s okay? Maybe we’ll start with that because we could go anywhere. Yeah? Okay thank you.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Thank you Rita, thank you so much. You’re so much, much more knowledgeable than me. Much more understanding people, everything. So it’s for me also a great opportunity to, you know. I know what the Kalachakra prophesied, but the others I don’t know too much so. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Okay. Yes we look at the correlations. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes, there is opportunity to educate us, everyone.

 

Rita Hraiz: Thank you.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So to begin, my life, I born in a nomadic family and so is very basic, and yeah, absolute basic and remote. So if you have to buy something, you know, one week journey you have to go.

 

Rita Hraiz: Wow

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Like that. And until age twenty I’m illiterate basically.

 

Rita Hraiz: Illiterate?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes, I don’t know how to read. But I learned many things memorized. All day herd the yak and sheep on the mountain. Lot of different focus. Not just herding yaks, herding yaks just physical, 100% physical, so your mind have quiet and a lot time to focus profound things, my parents and so forth taught me. Like that. 

 

So after age twenty I become monk. Become monk means begin, I try to learn to read and everything the same time. So I have a lot of catch up. So then until I reach forty, yeah that’s why, continue full-time dedicate, meditate, simple life, study and meditate. Try to [?] journey and they’re all is good, different trainings, different traditions. I explore all of them, they’re all good. But finally I met, you know the Kalachakra tantra practice. So this is something extraordinary I feel. 

 

Then after forty, I reached the Western world and learn the language from the beginning, you know, beginning. So that is externally is a little bit hard for me but yeah, a completely different world. So this all leading to me the Kalachakra and Shambhala connection is the most we need in this world, that is most suitable for this world. So I talk like that way. So that’s why I emphasize on the Kalachakra. Yeah, so that’s why all my books and everything about Kalachakra and Shambhala. So yeah. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Thank you. It is amazing just to think of being nomadic and having like no Wi-Fi, no distraction and just being in nature. That in itself is profound. To feel yourself, you know, that’s what we’ve lost a lot in the West. 

 

But you know, I feel like we should look at the topic of Shambhala. There’s a lot of people think Shambala is a mystical place, that doesn’t really exist. And what really blew my mind and touched me, even though I’ve always invoked Shambhala and actually feel I come from Shambhala in reality, I really have always felt that, and…

 

But what Rinpoche teaches through the Jonang lineage, is that Shambhala not only really exists, but we have the details, the fact that it’s in the centre of the universe. It’s encapsulated, it’s circumambulated by an iron fence you know the description of the mountains, and the people that live there, and this is such an inspiration for all of us, and what it means in relationship to our awakening. The people who live there have aligned and connected to their full buddha nature. And that there are 960 million cities in Shambhala with the most perfect environment. Like not an idealistic mystical situation but produced. And in this perfect environment where they don’t actually need heating or cooling. They don’t need to waste energy. They already have this perfect environment with lotus groves everywhere. 

 

Think of it like this, what does it mean to be a Buddha or a Bodhisattva? It means that you align to the source of your beingness that is eternal, that exists and that is in absolute fulfillment. That your whole expression is an outpouring of this connection. And therefore you know, and as we go deeper into understanding how did this even begin? How did it become that this enlightened society that expanded to 960 million cities of beings, Buddhas and Bodhisattvas in absolute fulfillment. 

 

You know like, I always experience, when I tune into this, I think of these beings in the Dao, constantly in mudras in the inner absolute bliss state. And that they’re transmitting their deepest level of inner peace to inspire us as humanity, to come into our awakening. And what I’ve understood, the more I’ve studied with Rinpoche, is the profundity of the mantras and the invocations of the entire lineage, how this strengthens you and actually helps you to build what’s called your vajra body, your light body, to prepare. 

 

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Because when you think of the word vajra, this is like the eighth century vajra, Padmasambhava, this is, this Rinpoche here is a vajra master, his gift to humanity, having done all the practices the deepest of the studies, to become an embodiment of a transmission to bless us, to cut through our false matrix illusion that’s in duality, having all this conflict inside of ourselves, that we’ve inherited, how to literally, as his book says, to unveil and deepen on this profound path, to express your true. The truth of your being that is stainless pure and eternal, which is your buddha nature. How can we do this?

 

So this is what blows my mind to be honest with you about the Kalachakra and everything that you’re teaching, or how to strengthen ourselves through the different practices, it’s really, there isn’t such a direct level of technology. Because it’s technology, each mantra is a technology and you know, when I say that, I mean like very specifically, we can think of just the sound of the OM the OM, like OM, if we were to blow the OM in a speaker and have a [?] drum with sound on it, it would bounce to become the sri yantra. Which is actually the configuration of all the Tibetan stupas, all over the world. It’s the manifestation of creation, just with the one seed syllable. 

 

And then you have somebody that’s become so highly realized like Vajrasattva, which is very much part of the Kalachakra, Vajrasattva will help us to purify ourselves internally. Through invoking Vajrasattva, like an internal shower through the power of that mantra. For instance Rinpoche. So I would love you to maybe share something in your understanding about you know, how the lineage of the Kalachakra is actually assisting to people, please.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Lineage of Kalachakra lineage, we have several lineages. But the completion lineage is only one on this Earth, that’s called Jonang. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Jonang? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah. So this is the lineage is directly come from Shambhala. And the lineage, unbroken lineage come from Shambhala directly. Secondly, all the language barriers and everything when you translate, and sometimes you have cultural barriers, sometimes you have language barrier, so  the Jonang tradition made like seventeen lineages combined together and become a more practice level. Because the others they went more like intellectual level so they have intellect understanding, but they don’t have this unbroken practice from lower to high. So this is only the Kalachakra lineage that I feel. 

 

Because I explore the other traditions before I met Jonang, but then I went into the Jonang, then is, then I practiced. Doesn’t matter what the others say about their high practices, then come to the Jonangpa, it is not only just I felt, but it’s everyone go this skilful practice, they feel something never feel before, and then some people just become even moment of, they just jump and they’re another  state of the mind.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: And jump and do many things and then if you don’t know, then they become crazy.

 

Rita Hraiz: Okay.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: And then some people make…some naughty ones, they try to make like pin or something you make, like this. 

 

Rita Hraiz: To pierce?

 

 Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah but they don’t feel it, you know, because in different state. So this is only this lineage, nobody else you know. So yeah, it’s…so that’s why I fully dedicated and 100% believe that the humanity, we have a big, big hope and potential to you know, manifest a better world rather than you know, negative, pessimistic, you know. So that’s why is this is genuine you know. 

 

So there are many, many reasons, many, many reasons, you know. Intellectual reasons, logical reasons and you know the personal experiences, and many stories we have. You know story means it’s not something story you don’t know, just story, but we even something story I don’t know directly, but I know the person directly, who knows this story. Like this we have that many. It depend what, depending what you discuss today. If you would like to discuss me and I tell one by one.

 

Rita Hraiz: Okay, thank you.

 

Well, one of the things that I personally noticed is, you know I look at this transmission of understanding that there’s coming Golden Age. You could call it that there is a divine plan that is unfolding. And to me there is nothing more comforting on this Earth to actually know, in the time of turbulence chaos, where we’re watching the disintegration of all the selfishness and greed and everything built with wrong motivation, to use a Tibetan expression, is absolutely being exposed all over this Earth. And some people might think that’s like, “oh this is terrible. There’s so much darkness. There’s so much darkness”. A lot of people get caught into that Rinpoche. And what the Kalachakra has done for me, and I think for everybody, is actually help us to understand, no this is because we’re all being turned inside out, to come into cosmic divine. Could you maybe talk a little bit more about that? From the way you see it, and then I will share what I see.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah so this coming Golden Age and this divine plan, the Shambhala Kalki’s, they have this mission, they have this. All of them, all this about where they come from is Kalachakra tantra. 

 

So the Kalachakra tantra is not some people believe something else better, some people think Kalachakra is better. It’s not like that. Everybody knows the Kalachakra is the king tantra, they know this is the most high and incomparable. But it’s many levels. It’s even just somebody interested only in intellect, like scholars, even for them is Kalachakra is exceptional. So like that. So there’s many, many things contained. Some people think like…some people’s point of view, described like encyclopedia.

 

Rita Hraiz: Oh, an encyclopedia.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah. So that’s one description okay. But another aspect we think about is the external Kalachakra, they call the whole cosmology and astrology, you know this and everything they call in Kalachakra external, external Kalachakra And then every individual, you know our system, they call internal Kalachakra. And then they call alternative Kalachakra. It means enlightened Kalachakra. So the enlightened Kalachakra means our buddha nature. So if we, the external Kalachakra and internal Kalachakra if we… basically internal Kalachakra if we our system and our mental attitude and everything, if we do very well in the right direction, and then this external world is going to change. How much we can transform our mind, the world going to transform.

 

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Rita Hraiz: Yes.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: And then…but this external, the world, and our own individual system, and this enlightened Kalachakra, all of them is have a correlation. 

 

So this mandala is a representation of the enlightened Kalachakra. So which means, you know like they have three dimensions, like this one called the bliss state. And then there’s mind mandala, speech mandala, and body mandala. So the blissful state means the truly enlightened state, okay. And there is Kalachakra union, images are there. And then the…for instance in this mind mandala, we have like six Buddha families, means six Buddha unions, everything there. So that means, you know… you know our system is made by six elements. So this is all the reality is true Buddhas. Buddha means like God, God nature okay. So like that. And then you have, especially this speech mandala, we have a lot of, 72 yoginis and like that. So that means this Kalachakra also emphasize much more feminine aspects. And then the outside have like 360 goddesses. Like if we correlation with the year is like 360 days, like this. So all of them is, even you know like we considered demons and bad things, even they are included.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So the Kalachakra is called non-dual tantra. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Non-dual?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah, and then also they…it’s just everything is, nothing is, how do you say? Nothing is…the words I forgot. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Excluded?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Nothing is discriminate. Is nothing discriminated. Everything see is, you know like everything has perfect potential. So like that way. 

 

So yeah so, that’s why this is up to us, you know like the Golden Age, how fast come is up to us.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah. I really appreciate that and I just want to go into that a little bit more. Because you know, quite often in the West, people hear the word tantra, and they think it’s related to sex, and actually really I just want to elaborate on that. It’s the purification of the mind. Highest Tibetan tantra is that non-dual mind, that isn’t projecting doom and gloom or separating. And that’s what leads to the bliss ultimately. That inner peace of getting to be able to include where people are. 

 

Let’s just take it in terms of this world and now, and your situation, and your family, now. What you were born into all the conflict, everything that didn’t feel good. So that’s why I love this because I keep applying it to say, “how do we look at this in our lives? Oh yes”. We are going to chant for our family and understand that they are where they are now. To bring harmony because the objective of doing such a practice is that we become peaceful in everything that we’re seeing. Would you say that’s true?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah. 

 

Rita Hraiz:  And actually it’s through the power of the mantras and the practice itself that literally changes your etheric field to give you a strong radiant vajra or light body. They mean the same So that you’re not knocked about by our lower mind that’s seeing negativity everywhere, that you can include and open. And that’s one of the biggest gifts of this practice is the purification of our minds to hold the highest view, and that’s what I feel is going to move all of us forward. But of course, we have to learn to discern and discriminate don’t we? That’s the hard bit.

 

Yeah, so thank you, that is so helpful you know, that the lotus right in the middle is the highest bliss, what’s going to take us to the highest bliss. So what would you suggest? How to come to that inner bliss inside? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Oh I cannot suggest one way, is every individual have a different way. But the one thing is you know many different traditions come everywhere. Everywhere they have the same essence, but some people, some they miss a little bit, how to say? Miss out a little bit of pieces. 

 

For instance, the most…because when I wrote the ‘Ocean of Diversity”, the all religion book, twelve years of study and we wrote that book, researched. So I meet many different traditions, scholars, practitioners and then I discuss. The missing part is, everybody’s missing part is the most important is the bodhicitta. Bodhicitta means you have limitless wish, not only wish but limitless wish, with limitless courage. Which means I want, my number one priority, I want to liberate all sentient beings. You know, “me”, “I” want to do this. So this, many were missing. 

 

And then the other missing is that always people thinking “me, me, me, me, me, me” and they, you know. They don’t understand there’s many levels of truth. And then we are the, you know like, normal life is a kind of most superficial, how do you say? Untruth. So that’s why some people questioned me say, “is Shambhala is a real place? Or just…”. Some people say state of mind. And some people say, “is it real, a real place or just [?]”. And my answer is it is both I say. It is a state of mind, it is a real place. Because to everybody that’s contradicting. 

 

Rita Hraiz: We can all get our heads around that.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: I said both. I said both. And then so, then I say what do you mean real place? I know everybody’s real place means something our five senses can detect. That is real. Anything else not, then not real. So people think that way, so then I say our five senses, ordinary five senses you cannot detect Shambhala right now. But Shambhala…because Shambhala is more real than this, you know, what our five senses can see just right now. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, absolutely.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: But that’s [?]. 

 

Rita Hraiz: I love that. So yeah. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: I mean the more subtle, the more subtle, if we go more deeper, more deeper, that means more real, you know. And then these five senses and everything, these things is just one level of the truth. 

 

Rita Hraiz: So when I think about bodhicitta, it automatically links me and connects me to the bodhisattva vow. Because, and I love what Rinpoche said because when you think what is bodhicitta, it’s like the motivation to be in selfless service. In an English way of thinking, or Western way of thinking it’s selfless service. How can I benefit all beings, like we would have an instant Golden Age, when we get to that point. That that’s our motivation everywhere, every day and every situation. You know walking into somebody’s house, you see it being a mess, just get into that sink start washing up the dishes. You know level, that level. And just how can I serve, what can I give back. 

 

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And actually Rinpoche, I always say to people, when we talk about am I awake? Am I not awake? I will say the awakened person looks to see what can they give. And the unawakened person is looking to see what can they get. And what I can give is the cultivation of bodhicitta and when I use that word at the beginning, fulfillment, the buddha nature being absolute fulfillment, it’s like there’s nothing more than wanting to give. Because you’re fulfilled, because you’ve come back to your wholeness, your totality of expression. And that is what I see is going to bring us into this Golden Age. And the more I’ve done this practice and lived within this principle, the smoother my personal life became. The more abundance, the more everything flows everywhere I go, in every situation, because the motivation becomes pure and purer.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So usually I need to clarify, people say, you know, selfless service, don’t think about your physical body you know, you can do everything. Don’t think that way. But the most important thing is change your mind, your attitude and motivation. Train that way 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: And then is become like this. So that’s why if we aiming for our Golden Age on this whole humanity, if we think that way, and we influencing our friends and schools that way, and then can be very fast you know, like transform everybody’s mind. So I talk like that way. It’s not about our limited body we have to do, you know. Not you have to solve all the external problems with your limited body and walking and going there. So it’s not that kind of exhausting service. 

 

It is what Rita said, “what I can give?”. When we have this attitude then we forget this smallness, “me, me, me, me,”. Always thinking very defensive of “me”. You know like always defensive you know. That one is becomes small. So then you don’t have this, you know, when you…everything if you looking very small, then everything’s difficult. But if you looking big then everything what she says, become easier. 

 

Why? Because whatever you think the big, then is everyone’s the same you know. Same, everyone wants the same happiness. So why, if everyone wants the same, why only just think “me, me, me, me”. So always all the problems come from “me, me, me” too much. Within the family, within a couple. Within the community, everywhere just all the problems, guaranteed, come from “me, me, me”. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, it’s so true. 

 

Yeah well I found myself, like where have I gone in this last four years, after receiving the preliminary Kalachakra, understanding a little bit about practice, I’m only like a novice student, I’m not any master on any level, I just want to be clarified on that. 

 

But whenever I was in the sea, maybe in Kenya, or Sri Lanka, or Spain and I would just chant OM HAM KSHA MA LA VA RA YA SO HA and literally just making that, holding that invocation, that prayer, that mantra to radiate out into the waters, to feel the changes that are coming. That every family, that coastline, could start to connect with their own buddha nature and to feel peaceful. And to have changes and feel safe that’s something very auspicious is coming on this Earth. That isn’t wishful thinking, that’s how I’m seeing this. It’s something so powerful and you know…

 

Because I love your book the “Ocean of Diversity”, I’m hoping we have, do we have some? We’ve got some here that you might want afterwards. Because my study is to understand from the Vedas, from the work of the Christ, from the indigenous traditions. Because all of them have the prophecy, that now actually is the time, we can see all the signs, this is the time, none of us can pretend it isn’t. But what are we all doing individually to live and be that change that we want to see on this Earth. And then it comes back to everything Rinpoche is saying, which is this motivation on what can I give, and, but it’s an internal posture That’s how you could describe it, it’s internal posture. That good motivation. But it really helps to know that you can align to this high, pristine, profound place, Shambhala, where the Buddhas and the Bodhisattvas have gone before us in that state and to connect to that, to feel your own dharmakaya nature, that spacious clear light within you. Do you know the word dharmakaya?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah good okay.  Sometimes they don’t, sometimes the Rinpoches don’t know that word in in English, or Sanskrit. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Oh really? Oh.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah so, how do you see this next five or six years? Before we come to 2030? Like how are you seeing this progression happening on the Earth? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So that very [?] difficult. Uncertain.

 

Audience member: Peacefully. Peacefully. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah so, because often people have many bad things happening in the world like this, then people always thinking negative way. “Oh, that’s terrible. They become this and this, and then we have the third world war and then blah, blah, blah”. But I always see, we cannot say how bad things happen But so every, always there’s nothing is really totally bad, because anything is bad things, you usually think is bad, very bad things, there is good things, leading to good things. I always see that way. In my experience is like that, in my life. But also, I usually see this way. So that’s why it’s right now it sounds quite bad in the world, many things happening, but to me this is maybe the indication of the, you know we are leading to the good. 

 

Then also I mean I think about how many bad people in the world, how many good people. I always see the majority is good. It’s logically should be because everybody have buddha nature, how can be all so bad? It’s always bad in temporary and short time you know. Bad aspects. The deep truth is you know, the human nature. When you finish this dream, and then we call dharmakaya, but is covered. At that time we call buddha nature, but it’s exactly the same you know. Different time, different name, but it’s the same. 

 

So that’s why, the main what I told you before, you know like I said two important things missing, some traditions little bit missing, that’s what I’m telling you. When we say there’s many levels of truth, and then these five senses, what we detect is more superficial level. Which means, what does help if you understand this, what does help is we are not too attached in this level. So that means you are going more deeper, more go deeper. More deeper means, more deeper means you are from here to here [Rinpoche indicates outside of the mandala to the inside]. Journey to, journey to here [Rinpoche indicates the centre of the mandala]. So that’s why. That’s why. 

 

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But the motivation, you know always thinking, you know, the all sentient beings I want to serve, not just their little needs, but it’s serving, the ultimate serving, you know. So think that way is perfect, you have perfect vision to the middle. Otherwise always you vision here, vision here, vision here, vision here [Rinpoche indicates outside of the mandala] we not vision to the most, the absolute truth. So that’s why, yeah.

 

And, yeah, it’s always from my young age, I have similar, similar you know like, the similar visions, similar I think, I don’t think everybody else always. Sometimes you not fitting, not like [?] 

 

Rita Hraiz: I think a lot of people here… 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Especially with your child or something, yeah. But yeah, now I feels more, more hope, you know, the whole world, people understanding more, more, more. I think that way. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, I see that. 

 

You know something that really sits deep with me is, just even these words, you know the profound, the profound ladder. To understand that there is a ladder within ourselves you know, and that’s what we’re all doing. We’re going from being in the unconscious, to actually come to a much higher clarity, which is climbing an internal ladder. And so in many different systems, I see that as a big purification process. And that purification is, you know, what the Buddha gave 84,000 teachings on, which I’m not trying to change or try to add anything into it. But you know, that’s also in other traditions, and it all comes down to the power of compassion. 

 

But that has to start with ourselves, Rinpoche, doesn’t it? I feel that we have to have some compassion towards the places that…because I would say, pretty much everybody here goes through neurosis, the neurotic mind that compares and doesn’t feel that we’re worthy or good enough. Most of humanity suffer with this issue. And that blocks us in a very deep and big way. And then we also have massive imprints of being very self-critical, that leads to being critical outwardly and finding fault, that keeps us on the emotional treadmill, stuck in samsara with what you could look at as a false matrix. So again, that’s why I love the vajra because it’s how to cut through the false matrix within ourselves to purify the mind, that keeps being in these habitual negativities. Do you maybe want to share anything about that? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes. How much we are, you know like I said many levels of truth, how much the most superficial level, if how much we are stuck in there, then we are much more judgmental and hopelessness, you know. Because we only seeing the superficial truth. It’s still you have to call truth because it makes differences. Something you drink, or not drink, you sleep, or not sleep. You know like you eat, or not eat, it makes differences. It’s somebody be nice to you, not nice to you, makes differences. That’s why we call truth. But it’s most superficial truth. When you’re stuck there then we are, you know, more easy to offend, we are more fragile, everything. 

 

But if we go more, you have to understand, this is just like a dream you know. And there’s more, more truth in under, under, and then understand this more. You know, how we do this because we have to inner focus, because if we’re too distracted externally and always the happiness conditions looking for external things, always like this way, and then we disconnected with the inner truth, you know. So that’s why we are fragile. So we can go further, further, more and more, and the more you feel more inner truth, then you go more and more and more. Then you become indestructible vajra. Because it’s not become, it is you are. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Your nature.  

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Your nature, the ultimate truth is like this. Ultimate nature is like this. So that’s why yeah, that’s why… 

 

Another way, when you’re thinking about, “oh how can I…my number one priority I want to serve all sentient beings” you know, fulfill everybody’s wish.  Not talking about superficial wish, but it’s, you know, I want to give the ultimate they want. Like this way, that’s true of transform, transform your mind. And in that way, you are not stuck on anything. Any situation, anything you think is bad, or anything, we just, “oh that’s just [no big deal]”. That’s just like we think is just a bad dream, you know just bad dream. You know and then you wake up, no problem. That’s why even in the dream, if you can’t change it then it’s, you know like, your dream, if you faint, then you have nightmare or anything, no problem. The same thing.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah, it is the same thing. I really love that. In the Vedas, they say that this entire life is one night’s dreaming in our soul’s evolution. And I know that in the Buddhist way, they don’t say that there’s a soul, but to me the soul is actually the cultivation of bodhicitta. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: The soul is just, you know, the language barrier. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes language barrier… 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Because if you say somebody says soul, and then the other school says soul, “oh soul, no soul means self. Self is you can’t. Is selfless. It’s not self. It’s no self, it’s emptiness. If it’s not emptiness then not buddha nature”. Their one way training, people think that way. But if you say soul is like, see as buddha nature. Soul and buddha nature same thing, then there’s no problem. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Perfect.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Even you say god, no problem. God is seeing my truth is the god, you know my deepest truth. And then buddha nature is god, my inner truth is god, or you say soul, it doesn’t matter, what you name it doesn’t matter. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah, I agree. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: The most important is you just believe this you know. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah, and even a mindset. Yeah so, you said something there that I felt that… 

 

Khentrul Rinpocthe: Even the god, you know like if we think oh god is something external, then we have a problem you know. Then we have philosophical many problems. if god create the world and you know like god, everything is up to god. Then god is more like judgmental. God send you to hell, send you, you know, then that doesn’t work, you know like even intellectual level. So the god is you understand your inner truth, you know. And then solve all the problems. 

 

Rita Hraiz: That’s definitely true. We definitely create them anyway.  Don’t we. Yeah, hmmm.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Our strength and our strength of the mind, we have strength…strength have to be in the mind not in the physical body.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Physical body strength is always limited, not limitless okay. But the mind strength can be limitless. Okay? So that’s why we have to understand. This, if god or buddha nature, if we understand that way or even just believe that way, that is strength of the mind. This brings all strength. Every strength originate from.

 

Rita Hraiz: I do agree with that and I also see even beyond the mind which comes back to the dharmakaya nature, that spacious clear light…

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah but also when we say mind, beyond mind it depends the where you’re thinking. When you thinking everything in our mind, mind is buddha nature, mind is dharmakaya, if you think that way that also is okay. It’s not correct, you know like some level of language but, how you think, is no problem.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, I love that too. Hmmmm. Yeah so.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So many intellectual people they’re debating only words. And they never end. There’s too much debate and never ends. Then becomes, finally becomes like all argument for the sake of argument. Argue for sake of argue. 

 

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Rita Hraiz: For the sake of it. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah. Like this, you know, argument, the debate is the sake of win. It just becomes like this, and not become understand the truth. But if we practice, then we understand. It doesn’t matter how many people think you are crazy, or whatever. You know, you have something in here. 

 

Rita Hraiz: So one thing many years ago, when I would observe people that were Buddhist practitioners, and they were, you could feel that they were thinking that this life being a dream, I felt that quite a lot of people were cut off energetically from the suffering. And you know I just feel it’s a valuable story to share. 

 

One particular day, because I know about suffering, I have four children, single parent, you know many, many things, you know watching my partner die from a tragic accident, my house burned down. I’ve had a lot of crazy stuff happen. But, in one of the really deep contemplation meditations, transmissions, one of those things, what I suddenly understood deeper, that the bodhisattva vow, is to take a body, come into a family absorb the suffering and transform it with the purity of the mind. Taking it through the heart. And I feel that this is really valuable important information for all of us. 

 

Because sometimes people get confused about karma and they think I was born into a family where there’s abuse and violence and alcoholism and drug addiction, all these kind of things and think, “oh I’ve got terrible karma”. And then I started to go deeper into thinking well maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s actually that as your bodhisattva vow, you choose to incarnate to absorb it, to transform it internally and bring light and peace and harmony to your family and your community. Because that’s the only way we’re going to have a better world, an enlightened society. And you know it’s a very different way to look at this bodhisattva vow. 

 

In the Hindu traditions, or some traditions they think about ascension. “Oh I’ve been so good, I’ve been so good all my lifetimes and this is my last lifetime on this earth. I’m ascending now”. You know, you’ve heard that haven’t you, especially in Glastonbury [?] The interesting thing here is. when you look at it, this is what Rinpoche is talking about the motivation that’s so strong in our heart, that we retain within the continuum between our lifetimes and coming back. “I’m going to keep taking the incarnations until all beings are enlightened. All beings are awakened”. This is really important factor here. That it’s just everything that we are. Because we are a human family that are going to grow together. 

 

And this is what’s been so inspiring about Shambala when Rinpoche tells the stories, even how when a long time ago Shambhala, the community of Shambala were on this Earth. Can you tell that story Rinpoche? Please, it’s very important. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes I think there’s many misunderstanding, difficult to understanding the Shambhala and you know. And everybody tried to research on this Earth and then, because there is, if you look at the text, if you take literally then, you know like you have in this Earth, somewhere and direction and everything, how you go and like this. And then try to, many, many people make huge effort and try to searching this. But is only one little thing misunderstanding, they have this trouble, because…

 

So you have to understand, because everybody’s thinking, Shambhala, wherever was from beginning, it must be still there. Always thinking that way. And then even said 960 million, 960 million cities, even say that, then is our Earth then become so tiny compared to that 960 million cities. Our Earth is so small and only few thousand cities. So then they don’t even think that. They’re still thinking, “oh the Shambhala have to be somewhere.” Some people say oh Himalayas, some people say oh Mongolia, some people say oh, you know, the middle of Earth. Some say inside Earth, blah, blah, bah. Think that way. 

 

People don’t understand how they’re civilized you know, how everything transforms. Not always stay like all the time one place. Nothing’s like this. Even this level. They don’t think about this and they don’t think about, you know like the subtleness. The subtleness means a very big and powerful. Always people thinking subtle means small. So that’s the problem 

 

Rita Hraiz: Inner.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah. That’s why if we say, if you understand what the subtle means, then 960 million, yeah, it’s possible, anywhere, you know. So that’s why yeah, it’s the most important we don’t think everything externally, everything like objectively. More subjective. Everything is subjective, you know. How we think, how we accumulate, you know. In that way…but people talking about karma, people say “oh you have karma problem”, or, “oh I have bad karma. And then you just depress and hopeless. Which means you’re thinking only one karma. But you can have trillions, trillions, innumerable karma. Why you have to be stuck on one karma? Because we already have habit of thinking too small. Yeah so that’s why. 

 

But you know, instead another way of attitude. But also another way attitude you can think of, this bad karma experiencing is purification. Purify my debt, my, you know my problems. We should be happy, we should be, you know like it’s not hopeless. It should be very helpful you know. That’s why I’m saying before, all bad things never bad, nothing is forever bad you know. Anything. It’s leading to the good, you know. 

 

Yeah so that Shambhala, I think everybody understand peace, but they not fully understand. That’s why I wrote the Shambhala book, very big, because everybody writes that so small. So small. They get some aspects but they don’t get the whole picture. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Sometimes, you know I’ve contemplated this a lot, and you know when I’ve been in visions and seen certain things, I actually also feel that there is like a fifth kingdom, just parallel to this Earth. That is going to be so much stronger, more revealed, when humanity’s [?] centre starts to open. And we are in this place of deep level of purification and we’ve unified with the one, and we know ourselves as one human family. And in the Bible that’s called the Fifth Kingdom of the Soul, but it’s here. You know like it’s here. So I’ve often thought like it might be called Shambhala, but it’s also here on the inner plains. 

 

And that’s really, I really love what you said because from what I’m seeing, wherever I travel around the world, people are getting to experience the subtlety and shimmering electric fire coming through their body. A lot of physical symptoms of awakening. A lot of alignment. And calmness that comes when you actually recognize there is a divine plan that’s unfolding and it’s a very auspicious time to be here. 

 

So that’s again I’m coming back to vajra, because I feel like we are being pierced to break open to see a new truth, where we can…and that’s actually really a question Rinpoche, because I really loved when you talked about the…which I’ve realized we went a bit off topic, when you told us the story about the beings on the Earth that, you know the first Kalki King on the Earth, and Shambala, how he had to harness and not persuade, but inspire a whole community to become selfless, and see themselves as one human family, and come into a whole new level of being. Could you just talk a little bit about that, because that really inspired me to understand that’s what we’re doing now.

 

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Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes so, because people think Shambhala is always one thing, one place. Same exact, never change. That’s impossible. Even you just take literally in the text, the first Shambhala, is maybe it’s much more civilized kingdom but it cannot be perfect. 

 

Why? Because seeking for Kalachakra tantra. Suchandra, first the king, he’s not first of the king, but he’s seeking for the Kalachakra tantra. He’s the first time. And then he received from Buddha, Kalachakra. But when we say Buddha, not like Buddha historical, like monk, you know, simple monk. It’s not that. It’s Buddha transformed into Kalachakra union, and then he had two mandalas. One mandala above, like 600 deities. And this mandala down, have you know like 636 deities. Like this. And then he’s become the middle, and then he taught. Because they are high, incredible high beings so he not talk like a simple monk, you know, oh, calm and meditate. Calm abiding. So that’s why. He taught that. Then this, he wrote commentary, as the first king. Then seven reigns of the kings. Kalachakra practiced in Shambhala, but not the whole Shambhala practice. Not the whole Shambhala. Still they have a different, you know like, levels of religion, everything. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Okay, that’s really interesting. So when it started, they were all different. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Then the eighth king, Manjuyashas, he said, you know like, the simple way of saying, “oh we need everybody practice Kalachakra. The whole nation need Kalachakra”. And then this, the other religion, you know the other’s think, “ohhh” something you know like “oh no! We don’t want to become this. This is our religion”. Like this way. So and that way, and then he said, “oh if anybody is not interested this, leave Shambhala, leave Shambhala”. 

 

Rita Hraiz: No, it makes sense. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Leave Shambhala. And then some of them they try to leave, and went many, many, many days journey and then tired and sleeping. And that time, you know like magical messengers, they brought back to the Kalachakra mandala. So I think at that time, that means…one way of looking at, he forced them, forced to bring back. You can criticize, “oh they have no freedom blah blah blah”. You can say that but, then once they reach there, then they understood you know, they understand this is so important. They feel it. They feel something Divine and so. And then he initiated in Kalachakra. So that means, that time is the…then first…until then, he become, they all become Kalachakra practitioner. 

 

So then, since then, this king, we don’t call a king anymore, because it’s not like kinghood. They call Rigden. Rigden means Kalki. In Tibetan called Rigden, but in Sanskrit called Kalki. Which means is unbiased, you know like unbiased, and no racial discrimination, no religious discrimination. And some people think, “oh that means everybody become a Buddhist”. It’s not about Buddhist. Is Kalachakra means go beyond Buddhism. Go beyond Buddhism, go beyond all other religion. Religion means is steps to, you know. So this is go beyond religion, you know like that. 

 

Only just…today held by the Buddhist tradition, but not all tradition, only one tradition left, you know. The others don’t have Kalachakra, only pieces. So that’s why, if this is hold from Hindu or from Christian, or from anybody today, it’s authentic and should be the same information. Same information.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah, I agree. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So like that. So that’s why. Then transform Shambhala. Then transform Shambhala. Shambhala transformed. So then after that, to normal person not visible anymore. Only you have spiritual status, experiences, or special occasions, or individual’s experience, but it’s not everybody. Because that means go beyond normal people’s karma. Karmic world. Go beyond that. That’s why we need to make connection, you know connection. We need karmic connection to this Earth, Shambhala going to help us transform. That’s why we need connection. Because Kalachakra transformed Shambhala so it’s going to transform our world. 

 

Rita Hraiz: I really appreciate that. 

 

Just Matti, can you open the doors to let some air in here? Thank you. 

 

Yes, I’m really hearing that, but I guess that when people think, “oh does this mean I’ve got to have like a really big commitment?”. You know I was thinking when I first received the teachings, like oh my gosh how am I gonna…how long does it take to go through the Kalachakra book you know like the prayers and everything, how am I going to fit in an hour a day? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: This is a long time everybody present the tantra, presented tantra, you know, a very limited way. You have to sign up something. You taking the vows means you sign up something. You sign up something means you have these commitments, tasks, everyday, tasks. So which means you’re not focusing the essence, you focusing something, a branch. And you emphasize too much on that branch. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah. And I confer and agree. And do you know, so after a while, what I realized was actually my entire life is part of the Kalachakra practice, everything. There’s nothing separate. And I realized that’s it. It’s just it all comes from the middle, doesn’t it? The motivation to want to support and help, and then the mind, everything you said it’s just life-changing in that way.

 

And I love that you also taught us you know, you said it, which I’ve repeated lots of times to lots of people, which is you do not have to be Buddhist. You can be Hindu, you could be Muslim, you could be Christian, but, to just have that purity of motivation. And you can also invoke the strength, this is something else I’m beginning to realize, I think it’s very important to share. Every Buddha, you know like let’s say Medicine Buddha, or Vajrasattva, or Green Tara, White Tara,  all aspects, Manjushri, Padmasambhava, they all have come to buddhahood with a responsibility, and then they are giving a gift. And that gift is their mantra, to clean us, to strengthen us and to build our vajra like body. To really help us to deepen our buddha nature. I mean it’s as simple as that and I, you know can’t actually get over how strengthening this is to everybody, always. And I have a load of students that are actually Muslim in Dubai. I have to be a little bit quiet about it in case their husbands find out, but you know, they chant, and it’s amazing. Because basically they have seen it makes a massive difference. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah and the truth is go beyond religion. The truth go beyond gender. Truth go beyond race. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah, everything. So profound. 

 

Yeah so, would you be open to maybe answering a few questions? You think so? Or do you want to share a little bit more about anything that we’ve touched upon? How do you feel? Because we probably have got maybe another half an hour, forty minutes. what do you feel?

 

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Khentrul Rinpoche: Okay. So I think some of people misunderstanding, like they think “I’m Christian, so I have to be forever Christian”. “I’m Muslim and I have to be forever Muslim”, “I am Buddhist I have to be forever Buddhist”. Right? But it’s you are Buddhist now and you are Christian now, is just your temporary, temporary, you know like your path. You have to go beyond that. If not go beyond that then is many contradictions, many contradictions. So then whatever you describe the ultimate what achievement, you know, or whatever we call accomplishment, is not the same. So one of them have to be wrong, right? So that’s why it’s… 

 

Rita Hraiz: But I think that’s what I love about the high tantras, because it isn’t wrongness, I mean in my view, and it may be wrong, but I absolutely believe that the Kalki King is also Christ. You know it’s the same. It’s the light coming from part of the source of all beauty. You know like it’s coming from the ultimate of truth, and it has the same motivation. Always the great teacher comes to lift humanity, to help humanity to progress. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah your religion or everything, your culture, your religion, your race, everything you have to see as your temporary car, temporary house, temporary your needs. You just have to see that way and you have to go beyond that. 

 

Rita Hraiz: That’s lovey. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Go beyond that so who explain much more beyond is Kalachakra. Kalachakra tantra. It explains much more beyond. And then many other religions, even Buddhist other sects, they explain is something the world will become worse and worse. But Kalachakra say no. There is huge, huge hope you know. There’s worse and worse, but until Buddha Maitreya, so that means like a million years later, then getting better. But Kalachakra tantra say no.

 

Rita Hraiz:  It’s now.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah, can any time start, because Shambhala connection, prophesize. This they have details. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah I really adhere to that, because we’re watching how many of you here feel like it blows your mind to see how many people are awakening around you in your life? You know month by month, year after year, I’ve watched a speed up of people coming to a better place and more peaceful and more at peace with all of what’s happened, more acceptance. Yeah? It’s here, it’s coming. Yeah, thank you. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Also, whatever we, you know like conflicts, or anything problems, always the truth is win in the end, right? So our truth, think about truth, our truth is buddha nature. Which means the perfect. Everything is absolutely perfect. That going to be win. Cannot be loose, impossible. 

 

So that’s even indication. You know like I always talk like this way, indication. You know like why everybody even want to be happy? Why don’t want to be suffering? So that alone shows our truth is happiness, the most depth level is the supreme bliss. Is not the, you know, suffering. Suffering all of the problems are temporary. 

 

So also the other one show, why we want, you know this bodhicitta? Why we want, “ohhhh”. Why? Some people could think, “oh why I have to care everybody. I just care myself. That’s enough”. But it’s our true nature is not that. That’s why even think about the majority people if they would like to help, or they would like to destroy? The majority of people definitely want to help, not destroy. Even you are individual think, how many times you want the whole world you want to destroy? Have you ever thought like this? 

 

Rita Hraiz: So true. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: But how many get happiness when you give help or  something? And you able to do something, how you pride in help? You’re happy. Think about that. All these things is indication of our true is the happiness and perfect, and it’s not about the suffering and terrible. You know. All these things, whatever is, they’re just temporary. Very little temporary. Temporary, or you can say illusion. Same. Just as we have nightmare, then we wake up.

 

Rita Hraiz: I agree with that and I feel that through this practice, you can actually help to bring alleviation to suffering for sure. In fact I think that the whole of Buddhism, the whole all the monks that give their lives to chant for other people and are in the ultimate selflessness, not to possess or earn anything. All the nuns, that they are, you know, they understood that what would be the point of trying to accumulate loads of things, carrying on samsara, or just actually chant and be peaceful and radiate the light of peace through this body, through this mind, through my emotions. 

 

You know there’s I feel like we have to be careful to not think oh it’s just temporary suffering that this child’s got this disease or this woman is nearing her life, we also actually can support and assist that suffering from our own inner peace. By them knowing and understanding, by us understanding their suffering is temporary. And actually a very beautiful way to think about this is I see that all disease…you know two years ago I had breast cancer and a mastectomy and it was a very good like chhhttt, bringing me deeper into my body and strengthen and deepen my practice and it was an amazing thing. But what I see with all illness and all suffering it helps us to come down and in, to find the light of our buddha nature. It just absolutely does that. 

 

Anyway, in every situation whether we’re talking about the most difficult thing for us to even accept is the starvation of the people in Yemen. You know like somehow we are so disassociated from other people’s suffering that you kind of push it away. You know it takes us to have to really look at the footage of the people that have just been in that earthquake or in that tsunami and had their whole lives collapse, and allow ourselves to feel what they’ve gone through, to deepen the bodhicitta inside ourselves, to strengthen our motivation to chant for them to not be in suffering in their next lifetime. That’s certainly the motivation of all my practice and all what I’ve understood from the Buddha’s teachings, is that we must actually also like feel the suffering so that we can strengthen our practice to help them deepen in their practice somehow for the future. Do you agree with that? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So I think many people have a little bit misunderstanding, and not a little bit, as a huge misunderstanding, you know like when Buddhism say, life is nature of suffering. And then people think, “oh, how pessimistic, terrible statement”. Some people say. “oh life is like half glass is full. Some people say, “oh life is wonderful blah blah”. But is real truth meaning is, anytime go the opposite you expecting, okay? That potential. That potential anytime. Who can deny that? So that’s just giving awareness. Giving awareness. It’s not everything is not going to happen what you’re expecting and what you wish for.

 

Rita Hraiz: Absolutely. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Is it doesn’t have to go that way. If you go everyday that way then is wrong way actually. Better to not go that way. So that’s why think about each of your individuals, anytime if you have huge suffering if you happened, through this I can guarantee, not just the suffering, you have something which I say, you know, you got something from this.

 

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Rita Hraiz: Yeah, a gift.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Any of you can say,” oh yes I had huge problems but I haven’t got anything from this”. If you have anything, you can tell me today. I believe nobody. 

 

Yeah, that’s why it’s just awakening, it’s about awakening. How you’re awake, or not awake. It’s nightmare, or awaken. You’re awake, or you have nightmare. That’s all. That’s is the matter you know, differences the whole life. We say, “oh is it good, bad, wonderful life, terrible life”, whatever you say. Just dream you know. So that’s if why we are understanding, this means awakening. You’re lack of understanding everything then you stuck one place, one area, just you know, So that means you are still not awake yet. So like that’s why. It’s we just need taking the way of the awakening path. 

 

Yeah, so if you have questions, if we have time. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah, I think we have a little bit of time.

 

Audience member: So I have a question about compassions. Do you want to share something about compassion.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes, I always clarify compassion. I think usually people idea of compassion means is “oh there’s people suffering and I’m very sad for them. I want to do something”. People think that way. But actually, compassion is, if you think, you look more deeper level, compassion is not sadness. It’s not sadness and it’s not sympathy. It’s courage, you know. You have a strong courage you know. That’s why compassion is care, you really cares. Why you care? Because you have strength and you have courage to care. But careless the opposite. The careless if you don’t care because you couldn’t bother. You couldn’t bother means you have no courage. So that’s why.

 

I always describe the compassion is perfect masculine nature. Like this. And the love is the perfect feminine nature. They are always together. It’s one nature, two aspects, okay. But when we don’t understand this, then we have, how do you say? Less courage. Less courage. And yeah, we’re not inspired because we don’t understand the real meaning. 

 

Rita Hraiz: And do you, would you say that wisdom comes from love and courage, when they’re  together?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes, they’re you know like, how your love and compassion, how pure means come with wisdom. When they come with wisdom, then you have your compassion, love is big strength, never become problem. But when we have this compassion and love is kind of like contaminated with ignorance like this, then that’s why we have, “oh love is pain” you know. You know these things many problems come from so-called love and compassion. Sad and these things, feel hopeless, these things, because lack of wisdom combined together. Why not combined together? Because you’re not understanding the true love and true compassion. You are kind of like, I wouldn’t say zero, zero love and zero compassion. Never, never, never. Nobody zero love and zero compassion. But it’s contaminated, you know the possessive, ignorance, these things.

 

Yeah?

 

Audience member: So my understanding is that by practicing the mantras and doing the work in our inner world, we’re actually changing our vibration to such a level that we can enter into Shambhala. And the people who left, they said they wanted to leave Shambhala, couldn’t leave Shambhala because their vibration had developed to such a level that they were brought back. Is that correct?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Is that question for me or you?

 

Rita Hraiz: I think it’s for you.

 

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Rita Hraiz: Okay, well I would say I agree with [?] Dechen.

 

She said that through the mantras vibration, the vibration of the languages and doing the work and actually really being consistent to establish this in your energy field, that it raises your frequency, your vibration, then you can have access into Shambala. Is that…do you understand it like this? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Some people saying you mean or achieved? You saying is that correct?

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, she’s asking is that correct?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah yes, but not everybody in that way. You know.

 

Rita Hraiz: Some people?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah, for some people through mantra, some people with compassion, some people, you know through the other practices.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, not just. And that’s important I always say…

 

Audience member: What other practices would be able to enter Shambhala without mantra? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Can be anything you are motivated by this bodhicitta and then you, these two things I say you know…

 

Audience member: You’re dedicating it to all beings?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Classical Buddhist language we call understanding the emptiness. A simple way understanding is more, you know you understand the level of truth I said before, you know. You have some direction of this level of truth. You’re not stuck on one truth, basically. And then motivated by this love and compassion, this bodhicitta. That way, anything you do.

 

Rita Hraiz: So doing good works in the world could be? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Could be anything. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Oh yeah that’s yes, basically you know, in one lifetime, it might be that your practice actually was to find that you could not be resentful, cooking the children their dinner every day, going shopping and raising them, getting the money to buy them the food, even when they were ungrateful, rude and didn’t clean up, right? That could be a practice. Just that to get to the point that you could do it with unconditional love and steadiness that could help transform and raise the vibration. 

 

Another practice might be the people who think I’m going to plant a tree, as many trees as I can on this Earth. Or grow organic vegetables and give them to my community like there’s countless ways is going to…it’s not all about just the mantra. But the mantra and the practice definitely strengthens you in times of great turbulence. Like this moment.

 

Audience member: The motivation?

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah, but there’s, yeah. So many people already on that track, everywhere, all the time. Yeah thank you. 

 

There’s a gentleman at the back. Yes brother?

 

Audience member: I’ll start with gratitude Rinpoche, much appreciating your teaching.

 

I wonder if I can ask a personal question, because it’s personal experience which has brought me to this place. I’m curious, would you be able to share an example of your greatest suffering, or perhaps not your greatest suffering, but a great suffering, and your greatest learning that came with it with it. Can you be able to share and help with that?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: My greatest suffering?

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, that became your wisdom, and your teaching, and understanding.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah, I lost my father when he’s only 48, and he suddenly died. This lack of understanding the sickness, the lack of this very simple treatment. So I have incredible parents and I’m sure everybody loved their parents, but we are just unconditionally love each other. Unbelievably. So when my father I lost, I just feel the whole universe up and down like this. So that that makes me 100% dedicate my life and you know, for the Dharma, for Dharma, basically. This [?] community give the… forget about myself, you know, selfless. That’s how I start. 

 

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Yeah but also, not only that but it’s sometimes the people, how to say? People who lack of understanding profound Dharma, people use many politics, and many other things, each time to, yeah to very, very unfair things and shocking things people do. That’s also very big pain. But then you feel later you look back, “oh that’s so good, if that not happened, then this not happen”.

 

Rita Hraiz: Exactly.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So many things happened. So yeah, I lost my father and then one year later I lost my second my brother, you know like one year younger than me. He’s 19 years old he just suddenly killed by lightening.

 

Rita Hraiz: Oh my gosh.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes also this, you know like, for others, you know like some others they going for others to work, and then on the way killed. So my, some of my relatives they want to blame these people. If you blame them, they can get money, wealth, like that. Like this and then my mother don’t want this. I also didn’t want, so we didn’t do anything. But some of our relatives of course, they want something from them. Because that’s custom, you know.

 

Rita Hraiz: Very strong. Thank you that’s a beautiful answer, thank you Rinpoche. 

 

Anyone else? Yeah?

 

Audience member: Maitreya left quite a lot of practices that were found as terma. How can Kalachakra [?] how came the Kalachakra tantra to unite humanity?

 

Rita Hraiz: Do you understand this very good question?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Kalachakra, how come to humanity?

 

Rita Hraiz: No what he’s asking is, maybe you could describe it from how the Kalachakra was actually hidden as a practice for over a thousand years. He’s asking how it started to be revealed as a terma. That’s a good question, thank you. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Oh, how revealed to the humanity?

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Okay, so this actually, first it didn’t come to the humanity, because it’s normal human beings it’s probably not

 

Rita Hraiz: Too advanced.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah to advance, so that’s why first, the Shambhala king called Suchandra, he requested Buddha, and then Buddha taught, that before I talked that story. And he, when he Kalachakra taught, means he transformed the whole world, you know like… and the audience point of view, audience view, the whole world is like transformed the Kalachakra mandala. And then Buddha transformed this Kalachakra union. And then he then he taught four faces, they have four faces have four classes of tantra. And the middle one taught Kalachakra tantra is like the primary. So he taught like that way, and that’s why they went to Shambhala and seven, seven reigns of kings that time, they stay in Shambhala. And after that I think eleven Kalkis, at that time, approximately you can say more than one thousand years, only in Shambhala, not in the human realm. 

 

And then one day, very incredible virtuous family had a boy. It’s not boy, is man, he has so much, you know, divine nature and always family practicing long time, like this. He has messages come from Shambhala. So come to Shambhala. Then he had big journey, big, big journey, physical journey first. And then he met Shambhala Kalki emanation and then he taught him something and he practiced and he accomplished. So that means after that, he can travel Shambhala. It’s not like his body, his physical body walking to Shambhala, not that. He can emanate another form for Shambhala.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: That’s why he brought Shambhala [Kalachakra] to this Earth. But he hidden, again hidden, he don’t want to tell anybody. So he taught only twelve students, twelve. And then all twelve, they all become rainbow body. But one of them have more disciples. And then the third one, the third of the lineage, this one, he revealed for everyone.

 

Rita Hraiz: He revealed it?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah, he revealed from Nalanda, that time is Nalanda exist,

 

So Nalandrapa, he make statement say, “oh anybody don’t know Kalachakra, don’t think you know the completion”. And then, all the panditas can debate him and…

 

Rita Hraiz: How long ago was this? How long ago? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: That is more like 10th century. 

 

Rita Hraiz:10th century. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: When he revealed that.

 

Rita Hraiz: Wow.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: So and that time, then the Kalachakra, everybody is amazed. Everybody practiced. So many people become mahasiddhas. More than, you know like, all the different forms of tantra, had been long time practiced, but how many become mahasiddhas through those? Kalachakra only become mahasiddhas much more than all the others, they say. They told them. Like that way happened in India. And then transferred to Tibet 11th century. 11th century, so from Nalandrapa, to the pandita called Somanatha. 

 

Rita Hraiz: It’s really helpful isn’t it?

 

Audience member: Yeah, absolutely.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes sister.

 

Audience member: Rinpoche, when you talk about the revealing, could it be said that Kalachakra tantra was one of Guru Rinpoche’s terma [inaudible] 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: No not [inaudible] in any Guru Rinpoche’s teachings. There wasn’t terma on any Kalachakra. 

 

But in Guru Rinpoche’s story, he just say I have, you know, Rigden Pema Karpo, the second Kalki, 

he said he’s one of the Guru. That’s he say, that’s all the information we have. 

 

Rita Hraiz: But one thing I would say, even though I’m not any master of anything, it is that…

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: You’re a master in different level. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Basically, Guru Rinpoche did teach what is the highest tantra. He might not… not as in the highest, but he definitely talked non-duality and inner union and he showed so many different ways how to purify the mind and becoming acceptance and embrace every, all subtle [inaudible].

 

So on that level, whenever I like look at Rinpoche’s books, or I feel this transmission, it all leads back to the dharmakaya which was what Guru Rinpoche was helping other people to attain their true buddha nature. So that’s not different, that’s the same isn’t it, on that level? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: It’s the same as you know, Guru Rinpoche, I mean you know, it’s not nobody taught. Is every, many, many mahasiddhas, many, many taught. But they just saying the Kalachakra is more clear and the difference is the others, if you go deeper, deeper, than is a little bit unclear, unclear. And the Kalachakra is more elaborate, more more, more clear. The most high is much more detail. That’s the only difference.

 

Okay.

 

Rita Hraiz: One more?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah.

 

Audience member: Could you say something about selfless versus like your unique self?

 

So I’m looking at the question of what’s the purpose of life you know. Maybe it’s like to serve unconditionally, be selfless? Or maybe it’s to develop, to understand yourself to give your unique gifts? So I’m kind of wondering how they kind of… it sounds a bit like oh there’s too much ego. But it’s like what is our uniqueness and how does this come into the teachings of Kalachakra, if it does? 

 

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Khentrul Rinpoche: So in in general there can be many misunderstanding, because when we say selfless in Western terms, in English, selfless means you know like you… it doesn’t mean you have no self. You always put everyone in front, before you. So understand that way. So that’s also is one part of Buddhist practice, no problem. Is we share, everybody share this. 

 

And then when we say, Buddhists say ‘no self’, we don’t believe self, we don’t believe soul like these things. That’s how Buddhism you know like, how you say? You can say phonetic Buddhism. You can say no self, no soul, everything. So everything have to be emptiness. Empty, empty, empty, empty. But always people go a little bit extreme, so sometimes I feel a little bit sometimes some individuals, the Buddhists also go like a little bit empty, empty, empty, and feel like hopeless, you know like there’s nothing.

 

Rita Hraiz: There’s no purpose. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: There’s no purpose, like can be think that way. So that’s why in this Kalachakra Jonang tradition is the buddha nature is emphasized. The whole Buddhist believe buddha nature. But who is the most clear and emphasize the buddha nature and more understandable, descriptive, is the Jonang. 

So that means, you know you can call self, it doesn’t matter, because the Buddha’s more profound teachings say self. You know, we say, we call not self, the normal ego self, not that one. That’s the selfish self, not that one but it’s we call divine self, or you can say like [Tibetan], means the holy self or whatever you can say. You know saying when you understand, then you can say just self. You don’t say holy or anything but still okay.  But to help to understanding, you have to say the holy self, or the divine self, or the sacred self, or you can say something. There’s nothing wrong, because that is buddha nature. 

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, I want to just go into your question a bit more to really… from my understanding of what I’m witnessing that it’s not selfish to feel the truth of your being. The whole of the practice is to reveal the truth of your being that doesn’t come through left brain mind. It just comes as the ultimate expression of bodhicitta that leads you into the right activity within the divine hand, your mood within the Dao, to go and do this, and go and do that, and help this, help that. And it just becomes the fruitfulness. It’s like then now you’re flowered and you’ve come into your fruition. It’s not, you know there’s lots of horses you can go on to find your soul purpose, you know. But this, you don’t need it with this because you just start to just realize you’re… in fact, that’s the ultimate thing, and if we didn’t use the word empowerment it’s… the Kalachakra through the Jonang lineage becomes the empowerment of your true nature.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Empowerment means connecting, you’re with your true nature.

 

Audience member: Am I right in thinking that like there’s a point at which you realize that your true nature and your service just become one?

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes.

 

Audience member: And there’s a space where you find that, that thing that you feel is your service [inaudible].

 

Rita Hraiz: I think so. I feel that is it.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes. I think the danger is if people say there is no self, nothing there, then, “oh then what I do?”, you know like if I even not exist, then there is no purpose, nothing. But you… it doesn’t mean nothing because you have to feel something, right? Whatever you’re do, you have to feel something. 

 

Rita Hraiz: You can’t just become…

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: You have to feel this deeper meaning, and whatever we do, even normal samsara things, still we need some kind of self…

 

 Rita Hraiz: and perception. 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah, we need this and we need that, even that level of strength we need that.

 

Audience member: Is there a meditation that we could do?

 

Rita Hraiz: Today we will do a dedication and that, you will feel that, and it will be on the recording so you can always listen to it. It’s like a meditation dedication prayer that is through Rinpoche. We will finish, close with that. But there is… 

 

Yeah that’s a really important question that Sam’s asked, what would you say is the best mantra, or meditation practice that can really help everybody here to strengthen their alignment to their buddha nature? 

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah Kalachakra mantra.

 

Rita Hraiz: Could you say it for us slowly?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Kalachakra mantra you have…

 

Rita Hraiz: Short one. The OM HA KSHA MALA VA RA YANG SOHA

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yes, OM HA KSHA MALA VA RA YANG SOHA

 

Rita Hraiz: Quite hard to say. Should we say it a few times? Can we, can we do that?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: OM [Audience repeats] HA KSHA [Audience repeats] MALA [Audience repeats] VA RA [Audience repeats] YANG [Audience repeats] SOHA [Audience repeats]

 

OM [Audience repeats] HA KSHA [Audience repeats] MALA [Audience repeats] VA RA [Audience repeats] YANG [Audience repeats] SOHA [Audience repeats]

 

Rita Hraiz: Three times.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: OM [Audience repeats] HA KSHA [Audience repeats] MALA [Audience repeats] VA RA [Audience repeats] YANG [Audience repeats] SOHA [Audience repeats]

 

Rita Hraiz: So actually to do this three times, seven times, twenty-one times,108 times. The more that you do it the better, literally. You will see changes quickly because it is a vajra practice. You will see cleaning of obstacles more synchronicity. You will feel more empowered, and you will feel the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas blessing you as you say it. Because you are invoking that as you say it. 

 

So maybe dear Yeshe, to please write this in the chat, so everybody can have access to this because it’s streamed live and that you can see it and really include this in your practice. And that you can, you know, visualize that you’re seeing the Kalachakra and even to then experience like as you’re saying it, that you’re actually radiating it in your field, in your home, in your sanctuary, or your community, everybody that you see that you can bless them.

 

Sorry Rinpoche, I went on…

 

Audience member: Can I just say there’s going to be a Kalachakra empowerment online at equinox. So, you can actually be fully initiated in to this online. Maybe you’d like to speak a little bit about this?

 

Rita Hraiz: Yes, that’s a good idea.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: Yeah we have Kalachakra empowerment, what day?

 

Rita Hraiz: Probably like the 22nd, 23rd or 24th.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: In Boulder, in the US. But also we have coming here, how you explain? Vajravega.

 

Rita Hraiz: Yeah I will just say two things. So you can book to do that online, it’s very powerful thing to receive the full Kalachakra initiation. So that’s equinox weekend, just after the 21st on the Dzokden site. 

 

But this weekend, how many of you here are coming to the empowerment this weekend, Vajravega and the teachings of death and how to die consciously? How wonderful I’m so happy that there’s lots of you.

 

Audience member: I haven’t found anything about booking.

 

Rita Hraiz: Don’t worry, just come, we’ll sort you out. 10am on Friday. So yeah, so Rinpoche has kindly accepted our request to come and give teachings on how to die consciously. How to support other people in their transition. You know in fact I think that the whole of the Buddhist teachings is to prepare for that day of our great adventure of where we’re going to go and are we focused. And that’s very important, so he will give that through the Kalachakra teaching and the phowa teachings about all the different realms that you could go to if you’re not focused. And how people could actually begin to direct your attention to want to take rebirth in the pure lands, and then come back again. 

 

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Khentrul Rinpoche: It’s also, people have questions always say, “if I go to Shambhala then how can I help this world?” So I say if you’re able to go Shambhala that means you can have many manifestations in this world to help, not just by yourself. 

 

Rita Hraiz: It’s so true.

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: But if we help here, then it’s only me, myself. But if you are in Shambhala then you can… that means you’re able to do more. That means you’re able to manifest many of you here and one in Shambhala, and the others coming here. 

 

Rita Hraiz: I really agree.

 

Audience member: Rinpoche, how many years did it take you to complete the Six Vajra Yogas, and what did you do after that?

 

Khentrul Rinpoche: How many years because no… every individual different, how you practice. So if you just go quickly full time, traditionally done in three years. But if you really want achievement then somebody can, you know, it’s a lifetime dedication for maximum. The minimum is could be six months. Depends individually, you know. Yeah, but if you just saying traditionally talk custom, only three years full time.

 

Rita Hraiz: Thank you so much Rinpoche. We’re really, really, really grateful. We do have to close I’ve just found out we’ve gone forty-two minutes over.

 

I’ve asked…Victoria will put the dedication prayers…there are some books for sale here and even if you don’t have some cash you can take a book and we’ll take your emails and send you the payment rate. So you don’t have to worry about that, so we can connect after we close this.

 

Audience member: It’s only ten minutes over isn’t it?

 

Rita Hraiz: Oh sorry, I didn’t hear you. I thought you said forty-two minutes over, okay.

 

Okay so let’s just come into stillness so we can really focus this.

 

Audience member: And this is a beautiful way by dedicating merit and dedicating your feelings, this is a really good first step to really developing your bodhicitta and getting on that path. So please do join in the mindstream.

 

Rita Hraiz: Thank you.

 

Audience member: Rime Dedication Prayers.

 

By all these virtuous deeds of accumulated merit, may all beings be rescued from the ocean of samsara, where the tide of aging, sickness and death is violently active. 

 

May this merit help all beings attain buddhahood and be victorious of all the enemies of deceptive obscurations. 

 

By the goodness of what I have just done, may all beings complete the accumulation of merit and wisdom, and gain the two sacred bodies. 

 

Whatever roots of virtue have been accumulated, now or throughout the three times, I dedicate them here so that all mother like beings attain perfect and complete buddhahood. Just like the exalted ones Manjushri and Samantabhadra practiced like them, I rejoice in all virtues still to come, and fully dedicate them as well. 

 

In future lives may I never be separated from my glorious lama, may I never be separated from joy and practicing the precious Dharma. May accomplished all the enlightened bhumi levels and paths, and attain the buddhahood of Vajradhara. As long as space remains, as long as beings exist, may I remain and expel their sorrows until they reach buddhahood.

 

May the precious renunciation arise which has not yet arisen, and may that which is already arisen not degenerate, may it increase.

May the precious ethical discipline arise which has not yet arisen, and may that which has already arisen not degenerate, may it increase.

 

May the precious bodhicitta arise which has not yet arisen, and may that which is already arisen not degenerate, may it increase.

 

May the precious view of emptiness arise which has not yet arisen, and may that which has already arisen not degenerate, may it increase.

 

May the precious Dharma be respected and remain in this world, the only medicine and cure for suffering, the source of all happiness is the sacred Dharma.

 

By the power of the three bodies of the Buddhas, the immutable truth of the Dharma, by the power of the Inseparable union of the Sangha, may all our wishes be fulfilled. 

 

Just like the morning sun rising in the sky, may these teachings of the unsurpassable great secret of all the Buddhas, spread and flourish throughout this world. Through the profound aspirations of the bodhisattva kings of Shambhala may we manifest the glory of the second Golden Age in this world. May all of us Dharma brothers and sisters come to enjoy the good fortune of our courage and commitment.

 

OM SWASTI 

 

Dharmakaya truth body primordially free from stains of elaboration inconceivable treasury of spontaneous clear light, perfect pristine awareness of wisdom and compassion appearing completely as the body of the deity; Guru Kalachakra please protect us.

 

Virtuous friend who, with the two Dharmas, transmits an ocean of nectar. The compassionate blessings of Manjushri and all the Victor’s children that manifest as a magical display of enlightened activities. Beloved guide of incomparable wisdom, may you live a long and healthy life.

 

Endowed with samaya, Vajra disciples gather like clouds, roaring like thunder the melodious signs of sutra and tantra ring out. And the ambrosias rain that ripens and liberates moistens the Earth. May the great lotus garden of the Buddha’s teachings flourish for all time.

 

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